B: The way I see it, there is a change. I would say that thought is "crippled" in UP.  In UP there are no products of thought like the thinker, time, duality, effort, direction, choice, right? Thought in C is direction, choice, etc.

The little energy of thought/"meaning" dissolves in the Wholeness of UP.

The focused/ directional Known is BOUND to dissolve in the Unknown. Cannot survive!

IF that was so, these two (C - the focused perception and B - the unfocused perception) would not be really complementary, but rather exclusive.. How can UNFOCUSED hold the FOCUSED?

How can the Unknown hold the Known/ the "meaning"? If it held the known and understood it, would it be really the Unknown?

Thought (of the Anterior brain) can function either as a substitute or complement of the Energy (in the Posterior brain).

I'm not sure it's the complement..

They're of two different dimensions, characterized by different laws!

A:  They work together, complementing each other, it's a fact. But you won't arrive at the fact by rationalizing and comparing words with words

B: I am not doing just that. In UP thoughts come and go freely, "pizza", "bananas", "potatoes", images. If they are being processed, it's already hypnosis...

 Absolute time is one of the laws of C but is it possible NOT to THINK in terms of TIME at all?

OR.. all thought is (psychological) time and (psychologcal) time is thought?

.. In other words: is the thought enveloped in B the same 'full-fledged" thought as in C (i.e. involving time, duality, incoherence, hypnosis, concentration, egotism, etc.) or is it DIFFERENT?

If it's DIFFERENT, how does the "change" happen in B? But if it's the SAME, how could B hold C and not be itself of time?

"Enveloping C in B" would mean that the Unknown can understand the meaning of the Known and REMAIN the Unknown..

But can thought REALLY survive the Unknown, the Present, the Reality?

 TO THE SIMPLE MAN

When every wall is hid by many

new posters freshly pasted up,

when ‘to the people’, ‘to the Army’,

in black print stare appeals alarming,

and any dolt, and any pup

will take for gospel each old lie

that one should go and shoot off guns

and murder, poison, rob, at once;

start drumming into all our noggins

the ‘Fatherland’; the mob incite,

bamboozle with bright-coloured slogans,

egg on with ‘Our historic right’,

‘every inch’, ‘glory’, ‘sacred borders’,

with ‘our forebears’, ‘pay the price’,

with ‘heroes’, ‘flag’ and ‘sacrifice’;

when bishop, pastor, rabbi come

to say a blessing on each gun,

for God has told them, that His will

is that for Country – you should kill;

when gutter tabloid screams and rages

in letters huge on its front pages,

and herds of females lose their voice

throwing bouquets at ‘our brave boys’,

– O, my untutored simple friend,

mate from this land, or other land!

Know that the bells for these alarums

kings strike, with girls with ample charms,

Know it’s all hogwash, lies perverted,

And when these call out: ‘Shoulder arms!’

That somewhere from the ground oil spurted,

With dollars soiling the bright colours;

That in their banks there’s something rotten,

They smelled some moneybags, it looks,

Or cooked some scheme, the oily crooks,

For higher import tax for cotton.

Drum on the pavement with your gun!

Ours the blood, the oil is theirs!

And through each capital and town

Scream out, to guard your cash blood-won:

‘Tell us another, noble sirs!’.  

Julian Tuwim

(1894 - 1953)

translated by:   

Marcel Weyland (Sydney)

 OUTSIDE AND INSIDE.

If there is no hypnosis by the fragmentary perception (perception directed towards objects), what is the difference between a conversation heard "outside" and thought saying something "inside"?

 EXPERIENCE AND REALITY

Experience is not reality. Reality cannot be experienced. It is. If the experiencer thinks he experiences reality, then he knows only illusion. All knowledge of reality is illusion. Knowledge or experience must cease for the being of reality: experience cannot meet reality. Experience shapes knowledge, and knowledge bends experience. They must both cease for reality to be.

J. Krishnamurti

From Commentaries on Living Series 1

Reality is not experienced. The experiencer is just an invention, imagination, a superproduct of thought.

There are many synonyms of the term "experience", for example experience means the same as: "consciousness", "knowledge", "memory" or "thought".

 

Freedom is not in seeking, adding or gaining anything, but in letting everything go.

 THE DIMINISHING PROSPERITY AND WELFARE.

Science have brought us great technological advancement but if people don't come together and solve the urgent problems of the planet, there may soon be a material drop in the standard of living. This will probably happen already when some of the deposits and mining of important mineral resources start to decline. We need something like a scientific miracle but it won't be possible with everybody at each other's throats.

Unfortunately the resources are wasted in the armsrace, wars, the rat race, inequality, mass manufacturing of junk products, misallocation of capital to wasteful projects or overconsumption driven by advertising of false needs.

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