X: Why do you say people don't care about their children really when they feel they are British or Italian? They do care, you know how much effort does it take to feed a child, earn money to pay for the school, etc.? They work their asses off to make ends meet. They don't have time for playing around..
Y: Wait a moment.. But they feel elation when the national hymn is being played! They feel pride when the tanks are on parade. Is that sane?
They entertain themselves with that organized circus falsely called 'religion'. They have numerous unfounded beliefs. Is that intelligent?
They have conflict in their daily life, the wife and husband quarrel daily, each having their own opinions and desires. Is that normal?